[lfc] Digest Number 4733

There are 18 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. The Explosive 80's: How Heysel Changed Football
From: "Alan McClune" <alanmcclune1972@tiscali.co.uk>
2. Re: Scottish P/L spoiler
From: "Minifie" <minifie@bigpond.net.au>
3. Re: Re: Scottish P/L spoiler
From: "Darren" <darren@wyerangers.co.uk>
4. Re: OWEN ADMITS LIVERPOOL INTEREST
From: "Khavar Dar" <khavar@msn.com>
5. RE: OWEN ADMITS LIVERPOOL INTEREST
From: "Jeffry Rama" <jeffry.rama@hispeed.ch>
6. It has started already!
From: "Soleman" <sh@soleman18.wanadoo.co.uk>
7. RE: It has started already!
From: "Iain Moneypenny" <imoneypenny@yahoo.co.uk>
8. Re: non LFC - FA Cup? (and other stuff)
From: "Sarah Holloway" <seh@utas.edu.au>
9. CISSE: WE'VE GOT THE BEST BOSS TO LEAD US
From: "Neil Brooks" <neil_brooks@business-post.com>
10. HOW RAFA MADE THE PEOPLE HAPPY AGAIN (long)
From: "Neil Brooks" <neil_brooks@business-post.com>
11. EXCLUSIVE: SHEVCHENKO ON LIVERPOOL
From: "Neil Brooks" <neil_brooks@business-post.com>
12. Kewell articles
From: "Sarah Holloway" <seh@utas.edu.au>
13. Wenger tips LFC to win
From: "Sarah Holloway" <seh@utas.edu.au>
14. Non LFC - "my" players
From: "Sarah Holloway" <seh@utas.edu.au>
15. Baros pleads his case
From: "Sarah Holloway" <seh@utas.edu.au>
16. awesome Rafa interview from Liverpool's site
From: "Sarah Holloway" <seh@utas.edu.au>
17. RE: It has started already!
From: suleman.hoolash@fco.gov.uk
18. Spain's Gonzalez to referee final
From: "Neil Brooks" <neil_brooks@business-post.com>

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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 15:47:12 +0100
From: "Alan McClune" <alanmcclune1972@tiscali.co.uk>
Subject: The Explosive 80's: How Heysel Changed Football

There's a programme on tomorrow about the Heysel disaster on Channel 4 (UK) AT 9.00.

Alan.

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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 01:13:54 +1000
From: "Minifie" <minifie@bigpond.net.au>
Subject: Re: Scottish P/L spoiler

Glasgow Rangers claimed the Scottish Premier League in the most dramatic
fashion, as Motherwell's Scott McDonald struck late on twice to condemn
Celtic to a disastrous 2-1 loss. Goals were scored in the 88th and 90th min.
Martin O'Neill's side were left heart broken as The Gers upheld their part
of the bargain with a Nacho Novo inspired 1-0 win over Hibernian.

Cmon you Gers.

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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 16:22:17 +0100
From: "Darren" <darren@wyerangers.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Re: Scottish P/L spoiler

On a serious note, I wish all the best to Martin O'Neill and his wife as she
battles with Cancer.

And hopefully Martin will be managing again soon.

Wycombe Red

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From: "Minifie" <minifie@bigpond.net.au>
To: <lfc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 4:13 PM
Subject: [lfc] Re: Scottish P/L spoiler

> Glasgow Rangers claimed the Scottish Premier League in the most dramatic
> fashion, as Motherwell's Scott McDonald struck late on twice to condemn
> Celtic to a disastrous 2-1 loss. Goals were scored in the 88th and 90th
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 10:51:50 -0500
From: "Khavar Dar" <khavar@msn.com>
Subject: Re: OWEN ADMITS LIVERPOOL INTEREST

Because he is better than Welsh and Biscan. And Hamman is 31. At 2.5 million, he is cheaper than Diao and Cheyrou. Weird isn't it? If we were looking for a straight swap for Hamman, shouldn't we be after someone in the Vierra, Keane, Makelele mould and I wonder if he will bring the same qualities to our midfield. When we play 5 across the middle, SG plays in an advanced role, which isn't a natural position for him. He is much better when he plays in CM in a 4 man midfield. So we need a squad player to fill his role and a creative MF / linkman in the Aimar mould. I don't know too much about Hargreaves but wonder why the low fee at his age. He seems to be a utility player. Would be good addition to the squad.

Khavar
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From: Ilker Guresun<mailto:ilkerlfc@yahoo.co.uk>
To: lfc@yahoogroups.com<mailto:lfc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 2:08 AM
Subject: Re: [lfc] OWEN ADMITS LIVERPOOL INTEREST

If he's going to be a squad player then why buy him
when we've already got Biscan and Welsh? And it's not
certain that Hamann is leaving either.

ilker
- Khavar Dar <khavar@msn.com<mailto:khavar@msn.com>> wrote:
> The only problem is that he will not be coming to
> warm the bench. Spurs would offer regular footie and
> he wants to move so that he can be in the frame for
> the world cup. Can we guarantee that? Should we be
> looking for someone with a bit more quality. As a
> squad player I would be very happy with the deal.
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> Khavar
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 18:04:21 +0200
From: "Jeffry Rama" <jeffry.rama@hispeed.ch>
Subject: RE: OWEN ADMITS LIVERPOOL INTEREST

I think, he only has 1 year left on his contract.

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> Behalf Of Khavar Dar
> Sent: Sonntag, 22. Mai 2005 16:52
> To: lfc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [lfc] OWEN ADMITS LIVERPOOL INTEREST
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> Because he is better than Welsh and Biscan. And Hamman is 31.
> At 2.5 million, he is cheaper than Diao and Cheyrou. Weird
> isn't it? If we were looking for a straight swap for Hamman,
> shouldn't we be after someone in the Vierra, Keane, Makelele
> mould and I wonder if he will bring the same qualities to our
> midfield. When we play 5 across the middle, SG plays in an
> advanced role, which isn't a natural position for him. He is
> much better when he plays in CM in a 4 man midfield. So we
> need a squad player to fill his role and a creative MF /
> linkman in the Aimar mould. I don't know too much about
> Hargreaves but wonder why the low fee at his age. He seems to
> be a utility player. Would be good addition to the squad.
>
> Khavar
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> From: Ilker Guresun<mailto:ilkerlfc@yahoo.co.uk>
> To: lfc@yahoogroups.com<mailto:lfc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 2:08 AM
> Subject: Re: [lfc] OWEN ADMITS LIVERPOOL INTEREST
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> If he's going to be a squad player then why buy him
> when we've already got Biscan and Welsh? And it's not
> certain that Hamann is leaving either.
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> ilker
> - Khavar Dar <khavar@msn.com<mailto:khavar@msn.com>> wrote:
> > The only problem is that he will not be coming to
> > warm the bench. Spurs would offer regular footie and
> > he wants to move so that he can be in the frame for
> > the world cup. Can we guarantee that? Should we be
> > looking for someone with a bit more quality. As a
> > squad player I would be very happy with the deal.
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 22:56:22 +0100
From: "Soleman" <sh@soleman18.wanadoo.co.uk>
Subject: It has started already!

The tension, excitement, the tummy rumbling and all the other pre match
feeling I had for the Olympiacos, Juve and Chelsea games are back and it's
worst!

I'll be watching the games with fellow reds in a pub in Clapham Common in
London. That's where most Liverpool fans are meeting up in the capital.

I'm not sure how I'll get through work for the next three days before the
game, but I'm now counting down the hours!

I've been watching a few clips of interviews with the LFC players and other
clips on the net for the preparation of the game. Absolutely fantastic and
the banner that reads "Make us Dream" is really special!

Milan rested most of their first team players with the exception of Crespo
for their last Serie A game against Palermo. So their players have had as
much rest and training as ours. Once again, I think we have been written off
by the media, press and all other pundits. Don't they learn? Probably suits
us too as the underdog!

Come on you Reds!

Sol

YNWA

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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 23:58:05 +0100
From: "Iain Moneypenny" <imoneypenny@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: RE: It has started already!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Soleman
> The tension, excitement, the tummy rumbling

I've got that too, though it's more to do with drinking far too many bottles
of becks and eating a bit too well. Igor Biscan was at the next table to us
today in an Italian restaurant in town, I practically had to staple our
Sarah to her chair and tell her to let him eat in peace. When he eventually
got up to go he was fair game though, she nearly rugby tackled him to get
his autograph and I'm worried how easily he was out maneuvered by an 8 year
old girl. For a horrible moment I had an image of him tripping over her and
getting injured 3 days before the final. Some unkind folk might wonder if
that would be a good or a bad thing but I would have felt terribly guilty :)

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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 17:35:23 +1000
From: "Sarah Holloway" <seh@utas.edu.au>
Subject: Re: non LFC - FA Cup? (and other stuff)

> Sol: BBC and the Guardian quoted that apparently an agreement is in place
> between both clubs for £2.5m.

Only that? Get him now - quality for a good price is always good in my book.
But there is the question of whether he'd be happy to sit on the bench...
maybe if we get him it's a clear sign either/both Didi and Igor are off?

> Clever Xabi sets the pass mark

The more I read about this guy, the more I love him! Wonder if I can budget
in another Liverpool shirt in the coming year..... hmm.....

> Nah, the journo was right. Much as I hate to admit it, I actually felt
> sorry
> for the United friends I was watching the game in the pub with, esp my 12
> year old son who couldn't believe his team hadn't won.

Yeah, I was giving my Man U mates hell for it, but on the highlights I saw
they did look unlucky (as much as I hate to say it.) Lehman's saves were
class, even it was only for one game and not the whole season!

Had a good sensible discussion with one Man U fan at the bar while I was
working last night (which was surprising given that we'd just won
intercollege rugby and everyone was well into the celebrations!) and even he
admitted that it's just the nature of the game of football - it doesn't
matter if you have all the play, all the chances... if you can't sink them,
it doesn't count. It sucks at times, but that's the way the sport is, and
that's why we love it, because it's unpredictable and exciting.

And he wished us well for Thursday, and said he hoped Liverpool won coz it'd
be great to see such a good run and such a "underdog" win. :-)

Sez

"Whatever you dream you can do, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and
magic in it. Begin it now." - Goethe

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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 09:46:02 +0100
From: "Neil Brooks" <neil_brooks@business-post.com>
Subject: CISSE: WE'VE GOT THE BEST BOSS TO LEAD US

Paul Eaton 23 May 2005, OS

Liverpool are preparing for the Champions League final under the
guidance of the best manager in England, according to French ace Djibril
Cisse.
While Chelsea manager Jose Mourinho has taken most of the plaudits this
season for leading his side to the Premiership title, Benitez has gone
about his work quietly at Melwood and has been rewarded with appearances
in two major Cup finals.

Cisse feels Benitez hasn't received the credit he's deserved this season
and insists he's the best man to lead the Reds to European glory this
week.

"I think he's at the same level as Mourinho, maybe even better," said
Cisse. "He is more humble. It's good to be confident but sometimes you
can be too confident.

"Rafa is very clever. He's the best manager I've worked with. He's like
a father to us in that he'll put his arms around us when necessary or on
occasions he may shout at us. Maybe a player sometimes needs to be
shouted at. He's very good at man-management.

"He knows how to play different systems on the field and how to adapt to
different situations. He's tactically very good and he will know exactly
what he wants us to do in the final.

"I don't know what sort of game the final will be, but we'll be ready
for whatever happens. The boss will make sure of that."

Cisse is waiting to discover whether he has won the right to claim a
starting place in Istanbul following a series of impressive performances
since his return from a broken leg.

The Frenchman's two goal blast on the final day of the season couldn't
have been more timely as he competes with Milan Baros for what is likely
to be one place in the Reds' attack in Istanbul.

Benitez is giving nothing away with regards to his team plans for the
final, but Cisse is sure that whoever wins the battle to play up front
will do themselves and the club proud.

He said: "I'm ready to play, but that decision is up to the manager.
I've felt good over the last few games, my injury is behind me now and
I'm looking forward to the final.

"Whoever the manager chooses, whether it's me or Milan, we'll give our
maximum for the side and do our very best.

"It's going to be a very tough game but we're all ready for it and we're
confident. Milan are a great side and for myself personally, if I play,
it'll be great to test my skills against players like Maldini and Stam.

"At the other end of the field they have Shevchenko who is probably
their best player. We'll need to watch him all the way through the game
because he is the complete striker."

If Cisse does win the battle to start in Istanbul it will be the perfect
ending to a season which looked lost to a career threatening injury.

It was only seven short months ago that Cisse was in a Blackburn
hospital nursing a broken left leg with many people speculating he may
never play football again.

At the very least he wasn't supposed to play again this season as he
battled back from what the medical people termed a 'commimuted fracture'
of his left leg.

Cisse admits he was amused by the premature writing off of his career by
those who weren't aware of his unshakeable belief in his determination
to prove the doubters wrong.

"I was in the hospital when the newspapers and television were saying I
wouldn't play again," he recalls. "I found that funny because these
people don't know me. I knew I'd play again. I just knew.

"Of course it was a frustrating time for me - the worst of my career -
but everyone at Liverpool helped methrough it. They were always asking
after me and making sure I was okay. It wasn't an easy period but it's
all behind me now and I want to look forward.

"The fact that I'm back playing this season is down to the medical staff
at the club. They have been absolutely fantastic to me. If I achieve my
dream of playing in the Champions League final then it's because of
them. They were so good and I can't thank them enough."

And if Cisse completes his most miraculous of recoveries by scoring a
goal in Istanbul........."It will be amazing," he adds. "I'm in good
shape and feel I'd be able to score over there. Maybe one goal."

Here's hoping, Djibril.

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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 09:56:19 +0100
From: "Neil Brooks" <neil_brooks@business-post.com>
Subject: HOW RAFA MADE THE PEOPLE HAPPY AGAIN (long)

Paul Rogers 23 May 2005, OS

What a difference a year makes. 12 months ago today, Gerard Houllier was
enjoying his last ever day as Liverpool manager. Who back then would
have predicted Liverpool would be contesting their most important match
in 20 years a year later?

The imposing iron gates standing between the West Derby streets and the
Melwood training complex might have shifted some 500 yards or so off
Crown Road and onto Deysbrook Lane since the last time Liverpool
contemplated a trip to a European Cup Final but outside the scenes are
exactly the same.

Five or six kids who don't look old enough to remember a time before
foreign managers at Anfield stand on tiptoes on the wall of the house
opposite the entrance to the most famous training ground in English
football. They've been here all day claims the steward manning the
gates. Never mind the fact that their parents probably think they're in
school, they're here, mobile phones poised at the ready, to snap Djibril
Cisse leaving in his Hummer. Twenty yards away, leaning against another
wall, are two men hoping to collect autographs from players who, with
the exception of possibly Maurico Pellegrino, are probably younger than
their sons.

Inside the foyer, Luis Garcia, decked out in long black shorts and a
black Reebok sweatshirt, looks up from inspecting the contents of a
large cardboard box sitting on the floor and smiles. He says hello,
turns to the new receptionist, asks a question in perfect English and
then scans the names in the signing-in book to see if he recognises any.
It doesn't seem that long ago that the Spaniard had to call in an
interpreter to help him answer questions in an interview for this
website.

Elsewhere, coaching staff, players and members of the medical team go
about their business. The Premiership season ended yesterday and while
departure lounges all over the country are probably packed with
footballers waiting to jet off to Dubai, Florida and anywhere in Europe
with a lush green golf course and fully stocked 19th hole, the only
flight the players here will be boarding in the immediate future is a
non-stop chartered one to Istanbul.

Almost 12 months ago to the day, the writing was, quite literally, on
the [Melwood] wall for Gerard Houllier. The team might have secured
fourth place and, with it, Champions League qualification three days
earlier when Newcastle failed to beat Southampton, but no one was
celebrating. Attendances were down, belief and optimism had long since
deserted the Kop and substitutions, never mind defeats, were sparking
groans from all four corners of the ground. Six years after Gerard
Houllier had first walked into Melwood, the Liverpool training ground
was not a happy place to be.

Up the stairs, past the office once occupied by Houllier, through the
doors past the players' canteen and down the corridor past the coaches
meeting room now staffed by Pako Ayesteran, Paco Herrera, Alex Miller
and Jose Ochotorena, and next door to chief scouts' office vibrating to
the sound of an unanswered telephone, we sit and wait for Rafael
Benitez. We wait some more. The video camera and lighting rig, set up to
film the manager's weekly interview for the club's overseas TV channel
and official website, was turned off over an hour ago to preserve it's
batteries. Rafa is running late.

When he does finally bounce through the door, he throws his hands up to
apologise and laughs, 'So much to do, so little time'. He's actually
talking about media commitments in the run up to Liverpool's most
important game in two decades but he's probably been thinking the same
thing ever since he was appointed Liverpool boss on June 16 2004, just
weeks after breaking down in tears during his farewell press conference
at the Estadio Ciudad de Valencia. Find somewhere to live in a foreign
country, learn a new language from virtually scratch, check out schools
for his eldest daughter Claudia, convince the club's captain to reject
Chelsea's advances, scour the transfer market for emergency
reinforcements, plan for a season with England's most prolific striker,
rip up plans for a season with England's most prolific striker on the
eve of the opening day of the season and, somehow, try to work out some
way of getting the best out of a squad of players built up over six
years by the previous manager; so much to do, so little time.

The fact that many of the same players who only last season were knocked
out of the FA Cup by Portsmouth, dumped out of the Carling Cup at home
to Bolton and sent crashing out of the UEFA Cup by Marseille are now
heading to Turkey toface ACMilan in the biggest game in club football
speaks volumes for Benitez's time-management skills never mind his
motivational and tactical abilities.

Benitez, who Jamie Carragher recently claimed is so obsessed with
football that he's never spoken to him about anything else, prefers to
deflect some of the praise onto his most loyal confident, his wife
Montse.

"She has helped me so much since we moved to England," he says once the
cameras are finally rolling. "She is delighted now with this situation
for us. When she goes to Anfield she is always happy, joining in with
the supporters, singing the songs she has learnt and when I have some
problems, when I lose or when we lose some games, I go home and she
says, 'Come on, you can do it'. It's so important to me to have my wife
behind me all the time. In return," he smiles, "for her support, I buy
her a watch when I win a cup."

While Benitez has been staying late at Melwood discussing tactics with
his staff, studying videos of future opponents, analysing past defeats
and scrutinising reports from his network of scouts in Europe and
further a field, Montse has been stocking up on books for her crash
course in Liverpool FC's illustrious history both here and abroad.
Everything she learns about the Kop, Shanks, Bob and the rest in passed
on in detail to her husband.

Benitez ingests every last dropof Liverpool folklore because he needs
to. He's the first Liverpool manager since Bill Shankly to have neither
supported the club as a boy or worked his way up through the ranks of
playing or backroom staff to land the top job. Even Gerard Houllier, the
first foreign manager in 106 years at Anfield, once stood on the Kop to
watch the Reds thrash Dundalk 10-0 in the European Fairs Cup in 1969
whilst working at a school on Merseyside.

Benitez is far too honest to ever try to claim he was once a Liverpool
supporter. In fact, he's far too honest to even claim he ever had a soft
spot from afar for the club he now manages. He's a Real Madrid man,
always has been. The Kop, 'You'll Never Walk Alone', the Shankly statue,
Hillsborough, European nights at Anfield; it's all new to him.

But maybe that's why it's been such fun for us Liverpool supporters
having him in our dugout this season. As hard as he tries to win us over
with his team's football on the pitch and his attitude off it ('He never
used injuries as an excuse when no one would have blamed him if he did,'
claimed Ian St John recently), we try even harder to impress him from
the stands. We want him to feel special and we want him to feel we're
special.

On both counts, the first season has been a resounding success if the
traditional end of season lap of honour was anything to go by after the
victory over Aston Villa confirmed the Reds missed out on fourth place
by just three points.

"I was so proud walking around the pitch with my daughters [the third
girl with Benitez was the daughter of a friend]," he says wide-eyed with
a massive grin. "My youngest daughter was afraid of all the noise but,
for me, it was unbelievable. It is very difficult to see scenes like
this in Spain. It is so important to have the supporters behind you if
you want to be successful and here, we have the best supporters in
England."

Visibly warming to the subject, he continues: "My wife stopped me as I
walked off the pitch and said to me, 'You must, you really must win the
European Cup for these people because you know how they feel about the
club.'"

If Benitez can upset the odds and inspire his team to win the trophy no
Anfield manager has won since 1984, it will be the AC Milan team of the
late '80s rather than the Liverpool team of the early '80s which will
have provided the tactical blueprint.

Benitez might have grown up with the Los meringues, but it was Arrigo
Saachi's all-conquering Milan side which fired his football imagination.

Is that the perfect embodiment of the team he'd like to fashion here at
Liverpool?

"Yes, this is the idea. To create this balance but when you see the
statistics [for Liverpool this season] you know we need to improve in
both areas but OK, we have an idea and the players I think understand
better now and next season it will be better."

While we won't know for a few years yet just how close Liverpool can
come to that Milan side of yesteryear, on Wednesday night we'll get a
good look at the current model. And just like before the games against
Leverkusen, Juventus and Chelsea, Liverpool will be the underdogs. While
some managers might take offence at seeing their side constantly written
off by those who claim to know the most about football, the label is
quite clearly growing on a man who celebrated his 45th birthday just
over a month ago. "They have a lot of good players, a great manager,
trophies and the experience of the Champions League final. I think they
are favourites. It is good for us because we have nothing to lose. We
have a lot of things to win."

If Liverpool are to triumph in Istanbul, will they have to beat the best
team in Europe?

"Until this week maybe [they are the best team in Europe]? After this
week, we will see. But I have confidence in our team. I wouldn't swap
this chance in the final for fourth place. We are here for winning
titles, medals, trophies, and for winning money because, at the end, you
need money to buy new players. It was always important for me to finish
in the top four but if you can win the final, you will be in the history
of the club and, in the end, it'll be more important."

Important? Definitely. Expensive? Maybe. There'll no doubt be a trip to
the shops to buy another watch for Mrs Benitez.

Rafa laughs. "No, no... she will go for me. She is waiting! But the most
important thing is to win."

Win the European Cup on Wednesday night and the fans camped outside
Melwood will probably buy it for them.

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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 10:00:06 +0100
From: "Neil Brooks" <neil_brooks@business-post.com>
Subject: EXCLUSIVE: SHEVCHENKO ON LIVERPOOL

Mark Platt 23 May 2005, OS

During our visit to AC Milan's Milanello training complex last week,
Liverpoolfc.tv managed to snatch a short but exclusive interview with
reigning European Footballer of the Year Andriy Shevchenko.

The Ukrainian hit-man is the Rossoneri's leading striker and the man who
poses arguably the biggest threat to our ambitions of lifting the
European Cup for a fifth time in Istanbul on Wednesday.

'Sheva' is quite simply a living legend at the San Siro. It was he who
converted the winning penalty in AC's 2003 Champions League triumph over
Juventus and, with six goals from nine games in this season's
competition, he's been highly influential in their run to the final once
again.

He's also a big admirer of the Reds, who once idolised an Anfield
goalscoring hero of the past ?

Liverpoolfc.tv: Andriy, is it true that Liverpool legend Ian Rush was a
hero to you?

He certainly was. Rush was a terrific striker, one of the best of his
time, and I'll never forget receiving a pair of football boots from him
at a youth tournament in Wales. I must have been about 14 and he'd
actually organised the tournament. I used to love those boots and wore
them even when they were too small.

Would you say he inspired you to be a striker?

Obviously I was a big admirer of Rush and in a way I suppose he did but
there were other influences. Players like Belanov and Zavaro, they were
my heroes from Ukraine and Russia and both of them also inspired me a
lot.

As a fan of Rush, did you used to follow Liverpool's fortunes?

Yes, I used to watch Liverpool's matches as a boy on television and I
continue to do so now. When we are here at Milanello or in a hotel for
an away match I watch a lot of Premiership football with my team-mates.
We are all very interested in the English game.

Despite not being in a European Cup Final for 21 years do you still
consider Liverpool to be one of Europe's top clubs?

The fact that Liverpool have reached the final of this season's
Champions League means they have deserved it. We will not be
underestimating them and must be very careful. I think this season,
whenever I have seen Liverpool play in the Champions League they have
performed in a good way. So although they haven't been to the final for
many years it is obvious to me that they are a very good team.

Are you expecting a tough battle against Liverpool defenders Jamie
Carragher and Sami Hyypia?

I don't fear the defenders especially but what I would say is that all
of our team must be careful about all Liverpool's team. It's not a
battle between Shevchenko and the Liverpool's defence, it's a battle
between all the players. It is one team against the other, one trainer
against the other and so all the players will count as much as the
others.

How do you rate the Liverpool strikers Milan Baros and Djibril Cisse?

They are very, very good strikers. I know about Baros more because he
has played for his national team at Euro 2004 and he is very talented,
as are all the Liverpool players are important. We must be aware of
everyone in their team.

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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 20:33:25 +1000
From: "Sarah Holloway" <seh@utas.edu.au>
Subject: Kewell articles

The Aussie press is starting to get excited over Thursday morning's game... which is good!!! :-)

Sez

"Whatever you dream you can do, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. Begin it now." - Goethe

Istanbul reminders for Kewell
AAP

Harry Kewell returns to the scene of the grimmest moment of his football career on Wednesday, aiming for the biggest victory of his life.

When Kewell arrives in Istanbul for Liverpool's Champions League final against AC Milan, he will recall his last match there five years ago when two Leeds United supporters were murdered in the city.

As the Australian winger and his Leeds teammates were preparing to face Turkish club Galatasaray in the UEFA Cup semi-final in 2000, they were told of the deaths of Chris Loftus and Kevin Speight who were stabbed in Istanbul's streets the night before.

Although the incident will always remain with him, Kewell hopes Wednesday night's showpiece against the Italians will be a positive night to remember.

"I don't think you'll ever forget that," Kewell said.

"Obviously there was a bad tragedy that happened out there and the result in the game didn't go our way so I ain't got great memories of Turkey."

"But you've got to put the past behind you and you have to move on."

"But this is a different ball game, a different atmosphere and hopefully it's going to be something to remember."

After much debate inside and outside the changing rooms, the match went ahead, with Leeds losing 2-0 and eventually bowing out of the Cup 4-2 on aggregate.

"Not that we didn't want to play, it was just a mark of respect for the two people," Kewell said of the debate.

"We all wanted to play because obviously it was an important game but I think it was just a mark of respect for the families."

"Once it happened it put a downer on things but the best thing we could have done was go out there and win for the families."

"The manager talked to us and told us what happened and said you can't think about that at the moment, we have to concentrate on the game, the fans would understand and they did understand and we took it from there."

Istanbul is renowned as a hostile place for foreign teams who are regularly greeted by local fans with a "Welcome To Hell" banner.

Kewell and his teammates entered the field that night in 2000 behind huge rows of riot police protecting the players from a shower of missiles with their shields.

He has urged the expected 20,000 Liverpool supporters travelling to Istanbul to take care, but believes a match featuring English and Italian teams will go ahead without incident.

"When any English team goes abroad now I think they're always reminded of what can happen out there but you can't expect to live in fear. You've just got to go out there and enjoy yourself and be careful," Kewell said.

"But it's two different teams now, two foreign teams, so it should be great."

Kewell is expected to start the match on the bench as he chases his first trophy.

Updated: Mon, May 23, 2005 01:39:15 PM AEST

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Kewell aiming for UCL glory
SBS

Socceroos star Harry Kewell hopes to end the season in style by helping Liverpool to Champions League success against AC Milan in Istanbul.

Injury has ruined Kewell's season, but the former Leeds attacker says lifting the Champions League trophy would help him put aside the struggles of the 2004/05 campaign.

"It has been a disappointing season because of my injuries," he told Liverpool's official website. "Yet if you had told me at the start of the year I would get the chance to play in two big cup finals for Liverpool, I would have taken it."

"This game is the biggest there is in club football. I haven't won anything before so a Champions League medal would be a fantastic start."

"I have been working 24/7 trying to bet fitter and stronger. I don't think I will be 100 per cent until I've had a good pre-season but at Liverpool you are expected to give everything."

Kewell also said he was looking forward to developing as a player at Liverpool - and that his side shouldn't be written off ahead of Wednesday night's big game.

"There is something special being built here and I want to be part of the finished article," he said.

"It may take the manager a couple of years to get the team playing consistently at a high level but it will happen - and I want to be here when it does."

"It's going to be tough because Milan are a top team but if we go there with the same positive attitude we have shown in the Champions League already this season, then we can win."

"People said we wouldn't beat Juventus or Chelsea but we did - and we are just as capable of beating AC Milan."

Updated: Mon, May 23, 2005 07:50:40 PM AEST
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 20:34:23 +1000
From: "Sarah Holloway" <seh@utas.edu.au>
Subject: Wenger tips LFC to win

Wenger tips Liverpool to win
Reuters

Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger is tipping unfancied Liverpool to beat a jaded AC Milan in the Champions League final in Istanbul on Wednesday.

Liverpool finished only fifth in the Premier League and have already lost one final this year after Chelsea came from behind to win the League Cup in Cardiff.

Wenger believes, however, that Milan's surrender of the Serie A title to Juventus has dealt them a psychological blow which Liverpool can exploit in their bid for a fifth European Cup.

Wenger, whose team needed a penalty shootout to beat Manchester United in the FA Cup final on Saturday, said: "Personally, I fancy Liverpool because I feel Milan look jaded physically and certainly mentally by losing the championship."

"I think they have never had a better chance of beating Milan than now."

Wenger compared Milan's recent form to their polished 1-0 victory over United at Old Trafford in February in the first knockout round. Carlo Ancelotti's side followed up with another 1-0 win at San Siro in the second leg.

"When Milan played at Old Trafford, they looked at the peak of their game," the Frenchman said.

"But now, I've watched them twice recently, they don't look very comfortable."

The killer blow to Milan's hopes of retaining the title was delivered two weeks ago in a 1-0 home defeat by Juventus, who Liverpool beat in the Champions League quarter-finals.

A week later, Milan were held to a 2-2 draw at Lecce.

On Friday, they handed the title to a Juve side coached by former Milan boss Fabio Capello after what was virtually a reserve side were held to a 3-3 home draw by Palermo.

Updated: Mon, May 23, 2005 01:13:24 PM AEST

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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 20:35:59 +1000
From: "Sarah Holloway" <seh@utas.edu.au>
Subject: Non LFC - "my" players

http://www4.sbs.com.au/opinions/index.php3?id=58081

An interesting opinion colomn talking about how coaches tend to claim ownership of the players and claim that the players do it all for them alone. Argues the players really just do it for their club/country. Good read.

We need the boys to do it for the club on Thursday!!

Sez

"Whatever you dream you can do, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. Begin it now." - Goethe

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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 20:37:35 +1000
From: "Sarah Holloway" <seh@utas.edu.au>
Subject: Baros pleads his case

UEFA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE

Baros pleads his case
PA Sport

Milan Baros is gunning for Jaap Stam again as he tries his best to get back in to Rafael Benitez's good books ahead of Liverpool's date with destiny in Istanbul.

The Czech Republic striker has not endeared himself to the Liverpool hierarchy with his complaints about Benitez's team selections and the fact that he has been substituted too often for his liking this term.

And he finds himself in a head-to-head fight with fit-again Djibril Cisse for the right to lead Liverpool's attack against AC Milan in Wednesday's Champions League final.

But Baros hopes that his success rate against Milan's Dutch central defender at Euro 2004, could swing the decision in his direction.

Baros terrorised Stam during a memorable Group D match in Aveiro last June, a game that saw the Czechs fall 2-0 behind then storm back to win 3-2 with Baros scoring as well as his Liverpool colleague Vladimir Smicer.

It was arguably the best match of the tournament in Portugal and it will have left a bitter mark on Stam's memory.

"I have a pretty good record against Stam, I always seem to score against him and hopefully I will get the chance to do it again in Istanbul," Baros said.

Baros, however, has to get over the fact that he has upset Benitez in the build-up to the final with some ill-chosen words about the Spaniard's tactics.

But the 24-year-old, who could be one of several players on his way out of Anfield at season's end, insists that he was not attacking Benitez, just showing his frustration at the situation.

Baros will be in the party that flies out from Liverpool John Lennon airport on Monday, headed for the showdown in Turkey and he still hopes he can be in the starting line-up.

"The translation of my interview in a Czech newspaper was very badly done. I said I was disappointed I wasn't scoring but I have never said anything negative about Rafa Benitez. I'm not in a position to criticise him. He's the manager," Baros explained.

"I'm still committed to Liverpool and I still have a contract here. We can sort out what's happening with me after the final but all I want to focus on for now is the Champions League and we'll be discussing my position later."

"It's always a difficult period when you're not scoring goals, but this is the final. I'm confident I can score against AC Milan."

There is hope for Baros in the example of Michael Owen, who sat on the bench in the 2001 League Cup Final but scored the two goals that won the FA Cup for Liverpool that season.

"The fact I didn't play in the Carling Cup final this season makes this one of the biggest games of my life. You may only get one chance to play in the Champions League final," Baros added.

"Maybe I can follow Michael Owen who was on the bench for the League Cup Final in 2001, but in the next final a few months later scored the winning goals. That would be nice."

"But to be in the team I will have to work hard in training and see what happens."

"As for Stam, I've played a lot of games against him. The Czech Republic and Holland seem to face each other every six months and I have a lot of good memories of playing against them, particularly from Euro 2004. We also played them in the qualifying group."

"Maybe I have a little advantage over him psychologically because I've done well against him in the past, but everyone knows he's a great defender. No game is ever the same so you can't say what I've done before will make a difference, but it will give me confidence."

And Baros is more than happy to play the lone striker role he has had most of the season, adding: "It's not easy if you're up front on your own, particularly against teams like Juventus or Chelsea."

"But I'm happy working hard for the team and if I play on my own up front I always try to do my best and score goals."

Updated: Sun, May 22, 2005 10:17:58 PM AEST

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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 20:46:53 +1000
From: "Sarah Holloway" <seh@utas.edu.au>
Subject: awesome Rafa interview from Liverpool's site

HOW RAFA MADE THE PEOPLE HAPPY AGAIN
Paul Rogers 23 May 2005
What a difference a year makes. 12 months ago today, Gerard Houllier was enjoying his last ever day as Liverpool manager. Who back then would have predicted Liverpool would be contesting their most important match in 20 years a year later?
Click here to watch this exclusive interview with Rafael Benitez>>

The imposing iron gates standing between the West Derby streets and the Melwood training complex might have shifted some 500 yards or so off Crown Road and onto Deysbrook Lane since the last time Liverpool contemplated a trip to a European Cup Final but outside the scenes are exactly the same.

Five or six kids who don't look old enough to remember a time before foreign managers at Anfield stand on tiptoes on the wall of the house opposite the entrance to the most famous training ground in English football. They've been here all day claims the steward manning the gates. Never mind the fact that their parents probably think they're in school, they're here, mobile phones poised at the ready, to snap Djibril Cisse leaving in his Hummer. Twenty yards away, leaning against another wall, are two men hoping to collect autographs from players who, with the exception of possibly Maurico Pellegrino, are probably younger than their sons.

Inside the foyer, Luis Garcia, decked out in long black shorts and a black Reebok sweatshirt, looks up from inspecting the contents of a large cardboard box sitting on the floor and smiles. He says hello, turns to the new receptionist, asks a question in perfect English and then scans the names in the signing-in book to see if he recognises any. It doesn't seem that long ago that the Spaniard had to call in an interpreter to help him answer questions in an interview for this website.

Elsewhere, coaching staff, players and members of the medical team go about their business. The Premiership season ended yesterday and while departure lounges all over the country are probably packed with footballers waitingto jet off to Dubai, Florida and anywhere in Europe with a lush green golf course and fully stocked 19th hole, the only flight the players here will be boarding in the immediate future is a non-stop chartered one to Istanbul.


Rafa on Montse Benitez
"She has helped me so much since we moved to England," he says once the cameras are finally rolling. "She is delighted now with this situation for us. When she goes to Anfield she is always happy, joining in with the supporters, singing the songs she has learnt and when I have some problems, when I lose or when we lose some games, I go home and she says, "Come on, you can do it". It"s so important to me to have my wife behind me all the time."
Liverpool might have finished one place and two points worse off than last season but you'd never guess it from the mood inside and outside of Melwood. The small matter of the club's first European Cup Final to contest in 20 years has probably got something to do with it but even before Bayer Leverkusen, Juventus and Chelsea were dispensed with en route to the Ataturk Stadium, the mood was bristling with positivity and a feeling that, in what could only be described as Liverpool's most bizarre season ever, anything could happen.

Almost 12 months ago to the day, the writing was, quite literally, on the [Melwood] wall for Gerard Houllier. The team might have secured fourth place and, with it, Champions League qualification three days earlier when Newcastle failed to beat Southampton, but no one was celebrating. Attendances were down, belief and optimism had long since deserted the Kop and substitutions, never mind defeats, were sparking groans from all four corners of the ground.Six years after Gerard Houllier had first walked into Melwood, the Liverpool training ground was not a happy place to be.

Up the stairs, past the office once occupied by Houllier, through the doors past the players' canteen and down the corridor past the coaches meeting room now staffed by Pako Ayesteran, Paco Herrera, Alex Miller and Jose Ochotorena, and next door to chief scouts' office vibrating to the sound of an unanswered telephone, we sit and wait for Rafael Benitez. We wait some more. The video camera and lighting rig, set up to film the manager's weekly interview for the club's overseas TV channel and official website, was turned off over an hour ago to preserve it's batteries. Rafa is running late.

When he does finally bounce through the door, he throws his hands up to apologise and laughs, 'So much to do, so little time'. He's actually talking about media commitments in the run up to Liverpool's most important game in two decades but he's probably been thinking the same thing ever since he was appointed Liverpool boss on June 16 2004, just weeks after breaking down in tears during his farewell press conference at the Estadio Ciudad de Valencia. Find somewhere to live in a foreign country, learn a new language from virtually scratch, check out schools for his eldest daughter Claudia, convince the club's captain to reject Chelsea's advances, scour the transfer market for emergency reinforcements, plan for a season with England's most prolific striker, rip up plans for a season with England's most prolific striker on the eve of the opening day of the season and, somehow, try to work out some way of getting the best out of a squad of players built up over six years by the previous manager; so much to do, so little time.

The fact that many of the same players who only last season were knocked out of the FA Cup by Portsmouth, dumped out of the Carling Cup at home to Bolton and sent crashing out of the UEFA Cup by Marseille are now heading to Turkey toface ACMilan in the biggest game in club football speaks volumes for Benitez's time-management skills never mind his motivational and tactical abilities.

Benitez, who Jamie Carragher recentlyclaimed is so obsessed with football that he's never spoken to him about anything else, prefers to deflect some of the praise onto his most loyal confident, his wife Montse.

"She has helped me so much since we moved to England," he says once the cameras are finally rolling. "She is delighted now with this situation for us. When she goes to Anfield she is always happy, joining in with the supporters, singing the songs she has learnt and when I have some problems, when I lose or when we lose some games, I go home and she says, 'Come on, you can do it'. It's so important to me to have my wife behind me all the time. In return," he smiles, "for her support, I buy her a watch when I win a cup."


Why us fans love Rafa
Benitez is far too honest to ever try to claim he was once a Liverpool supporter. He"s a Real Madrid man, always has been. The Kop, "You"ll Never Walk Alone", the Shankly statue, Hillsborough, European nights at Anfield; it"s all new to him. But maybe that"s why it"s been such fun for us Liverpool supporters having him in our dugout this season. As hard as he tries to win us over, we try even harder to impress him from the stands. We want him to feel special and we want him to feel we"re special.
While Benitez has been staying late at Melwood discussing tactics with his staff, studying videos of future opponents, analysing past defeats and scrutinising reports from his network of scouts in Europe and further a field, Montse hasbeen stocking up on books for her crash course in Liverpool FC's illustrious history both here and abroad. Everything she learns about the Kop, Shanks, Bob and the rest in passed on in detail to her husband.

Benitez ingests every last dropof Liverpool folklore because he needs to. He's the first Liverpool manager since Bill Shankly to have neither supported the club as a boy or worked his way up through the ranks of playing or backroom staff to land the top job. Even Gerard Houllier, the first foreign manager in 106 years at Anfield, once stood on the Kop to watch the Reds thrash Dundalk 10-0 in the European Fairs Cup in 1969 whilst working at a school on Merseyside.

Benitez is far too honest to ever try to claim he was once a Liverpool supporter. In fact, he's far too honest to even claim he ever had a soft spot from afar for the club he now manages. He's a Real Madrid man, always has been. The Kop, 'You'll Never Walk Alone', the Shankly statue, Hillsborough, European nights at Anfield; it's all new to him.

But maybe that's why it's been such fun for us Liverpool supporters having him in our dugout this season. As hard as he tries to win us over with his team's football on the pitch and his attitude off it ('He never used injuries as an excuse when no one would have blamed him if he did,' claimed Ian St John recently), we try even harder to impress him from the stands. We want him to feel special and we want him to feel we're special.

On both counts, the first season has been a resounding success if the traditional end of season lap of honour was anything to go by after the victory over Aston Villa confirmed the Reds missed out on fourth place by just three points.

"I was so proud walking around the pitch with my daughters [the third girl with Benitez was the daughter of a friend]," he says wide-eyed with a massive grin. "My youngest daughter was afraid of all the noise but, for me, it was unbelievable. It is very difficult to see scenes like thisin Spain. It is so important to have the supporters behind you if you want to be successful and here, we have the best supporters in England."

Visibly warming to the subject, he continues: "My wife stopped me as I walked off the pitchandsaid to me, 'You must, you really must win the European Cup for these people because you know how they feel about the club.'"

If Benitez can upset the odds and inspire his team to win the trophy no Anfield manager has won since 1984, it will be the AC Milan team of the late '80s rather than the Liverpool team of the early '80s which will have provided the tactical blueprint.

Benitez might have grown up with the Los meringues, but it was Arrigo Saachi's all-conquering Milan side which fired his football imagination.


Rafa on creating history
"I wouldn"t swap this chance in the final for fourth place. We are here for winning title, medals, trophies, and for winning money because, at the end, you need money to buy new players. It was always important for me to finish in the top four but if you can win the final, you will be in the history of the club and, in the end, it"ll be more important."
"It's true," he says, rising up in his seat. "This Milan was a fantastic team with a balance between the attack and the defence. It was difficult to score or to create opportunities against them but they always scored goals and for me they were one of the best teams in the world."

Is that the perfect embodiment of the team he'd like to fashion here at Liverpool?

"Yes, this is the idea. To create this balance but when you see the statistics [for Liverpool this season] you know we need to improve in both areas but OK, we have an idea and the players I think understand better now and next season it will be better."

While we won't know for a few years yet just how close Liverpool can come to that Milan side of yesteryear, on Wednesday night we'll get a good look at the current model. And just like before the games against Leverkusen, Juventus and Chelsea, Liverpool will be the underdogs. While some managers might take offence at seeing their side constantly written off by those who claim to know the most about football, the label is quite clearly growing on a man who celebrated his 45th birthday just over a month ago. "They have a lot of good players, a great manager, trophies and the experience of the Champions League final. I think they are favourites. It is good for us because we have nothing to lose. We have a lot of things to win."

If Liverpool are to triumph in Istanbul, will they have to beat the best team in Europe?

"Until this week maybe [they are the best team in Europe]? After this week, we will see. But I have confidence in our team. I wouldn't swap this chance in the final for fourth place. We are here for winning titles, medals, trophies, and for winning money because, at the end, you need money to buy new players. It was always important for me to finish in the top four but if you can win the final, you will be in the history of the club and, in the end, it'll be more important."

Important? Definitely. Expensive? Maybe. There'll no doubt be a trip to the shops to buy another watch for Mrs Benitez.

Rafa laughs. "No, no... she will go for me. She is waiting! But the most important thing is to win."

Win the European Cup on Wednesday night and the fans camped outside Melwood will probably buy it for them.

"Whatever you dream you can do, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. Begin it now." - Goethe

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Message: 17
Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 11:47:50 +0100
From: suleman.hoolash@fco.gov.uk
Subject: RE: It has started already!

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From: Iain Moneypenny [mailto:imoneypenny@yahoo.co.uk]
Some unkind folk might wonder if that would be a good or a bad thing but I
would have felt terribly guilty :)

Sol: Bizzie is one of those that has been injury free since he signed for
us. I supposed I'd say you should unstaple her off that chair the next time
you see Kirkland.

Is the team flying out today or tomorrow?

Sol.

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Message: 18
Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 12:29:21 +0100
From: "Neil Brooks" <neil_brooks@business-post.com>
Subject: Spain's Gonzalez to referee final

Spain's Manuel Enrique Gonzalez will take charge of Wednesday's
Champions League final between Liverpool and AC Milan, it has been
confirmed.

The 40-year-old has been an international level referee since 1999.

Gonzalez, who is the third Spaniard to take charge of a Champions League
final, was a referee at Euro 2004.

Wednesday's final will be his 19th Champions League game, one of which
was Chelsea's game at Bayern Munich earlier this season.

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